09 February 2010
My opinion in this chapter is quite agreeable with McCloud's opinoin. He as a writer, I feel, did his job convincing me to believe most of what he was saying. I do disagree with some things throughout the book but as for chapter nine alone, I can't argue with him because he allows me to vioce my opinion by his closing statements. I really enjoyed his riding about humans incapability to communicate their full idea from one person to another. It was quite intruiging to me.
Chapter nine “Putting it all Together” of Understanding Comics by Scott McCloud, McCloud states “All media of communication are a by product of our sad inability to communicate directly from mind to mind.” We are unable to understand what it is like to be within another individual, we cannot endure the same detailed feelings of other human beings and they cannot understand us nor feel what we feel. Media reconstructs thoughts into configurations that can journey across the physical world and be reconverted by one or more perceptions back into thoughts. In comics the transformation follows a course from mind to hand to paper to eye to mind. Preferably the artists “message” will go through this intimidating place without being affected by it. McCloud indicates “The comics I “see” in my own mind will never be seen in their entirety by anyone else.” The knowledge of ones medium is the measure to which the artist’s thoughts and ideas make it through the journey. The power of understanding is the only obstacle that can separate artists from their audience. Today comics are one of the extremely few types of mass communication in which individual expressions still have a possibility to be heard. Ignorance is what prohibits us humans from recognizing and understanding each other with clarity; communication is the only possible way to influence our ignorance. The only way we can realize the whole span of possibilities comics provide is by empting our minds from any prejudged ideas about comics. The entire province of visual iconography is at the disposal of the comics’ creator. The language of comics proceeds to advance, as all languages must progress. Ignorance will unquestionably obscure the potentials and possibilities of comics as they always have, but the truth about comics will come out someday. The possibilities for comics are infinite. All we need is the aspiration to be hear, the want to learn and the power to see.
McCloud has given us his definition of comics; “juxtaposed pictorial and other images in deliberate sequence, intended to convey information and/or to produce an aesthetic response in the viewer.” McCloud also talks about the significance that history and prehistoric arts have with comics. He educates his audience that icons are only images, paintings, drawings etc. that are a resemblance, representation or a symbol of it’s subject. There are non-pictorial icons, abstract icons and pictorial icons. He explains “time frames” by explaining that each panel of a comic displays a particular point in time. McCloud enlightens his audience that pictures, intervals and words all generate the impression of time; each single image, word or gap has their own single moment. McCloud also tells us that not all panels are the same, even a panel without words is still a time frame “single image, single moment.” The length of a comic is up to the artist; the creator can include more panels, compose a longer panel or vice versa. McCloud also goes into past, present and future. He expresses that it is possible to have the past and future surround us in comics unlike any other form of media. McCloud discusses “show and tell,” he initiates that children combine words and images because it is easier to comprehend a narrative when images and words that are similar get together. He tells us that traditional thoughts are that considerable art and literature are only probable if kept at distance, but McCloud attempts to prove otherwise. He declares that with writing and pictures combined, comics have been distinguished with the ability of storytelling. And now in chapter nine he explained how we think and feel individually.
Reading McCloud’s Understanding Comics has given me a lot of insight mostly on how comics are made. I never thought comics were a type of narrative. McCloud has been trying to get his readers to understand that comics are a form of art and I agree, I never knew there were so many factors in creating a comic; words and pictures work great together, time is important but can be manipulated by the artist. I have much more appreciation for comics then I did before because I now see that the artist have a desire to be heard, to share their thoughts, ideas, beliefs, theories, opinions or even stories. Everyone wants to be heard and understood. I’ve learned how difficult it is to create a comic, but I’ve also learned how difficult it is to understand a comic, we should not judge anything without giving it a chance.
I didn’t like the first two pages. It was talking about people’s inner being and I felt like it had nothing to do with comics. The second page reminded me a lot about Sociology class. But then it started to make sense about how the inner being of a person has to do with comics, media is part of comics. I understood better when McCloud mentions “media convert thoughts into forms that can transverse the physical world and be re-converted by one or more senses back into thoughts”. Basically what he is saying is that whatever we see influences how we think and our inner being. McCloud said something that kind of got to me. He quotes “There’s only one power that can break through the wall which separates all artists from their audience—the power of understanding”. I really think that this quote can be applied to English students and their writing. I think this quote can serve as a type of encouragement. I felt like chapter nine would have been a great introduction because it talks about the content of the book but it does not give too much information.
I can’t say that I like or dislike this book. I feel like I need to read it over to understand it more.
Wow! Am i glad that we are through with this instructional, revealing, enlightening but BORING book. I gained a lot of knowledge through McClouds novel. He maintained his points, and got them through, without any contradiction in my opinion. The books form was awesome, and more interesting to read. Rather than a regular novel filled with tiny words and no pictures what so ever. I gained knowledge on the overall medium, the frames, how important closure is, the meaning of words and illustrations combined, panels, the gutter, how sound, words and pictures all affect time. I now have a new vision on comics and what they are. How educating they can be and how difficult some forms actually are. I am totally against societies critique on the overall medium, and oppose it greatly. Comics can be fun but at the same time they are a great learning tool, and take a great deal of involvement from a reader. They are far from easy, but yet entertaining and understandable.
08 February 2010
My experience with “Understanding Comics” had to be a wildly entertaining one. I found the book to be interesting and informative. Although I had my fair share of trouble with the book, I feel I came out with better appreciation towards comics. Actually I feel like trying to read comics and apply some of the knowledge I learned from comics to my reading. Comics have a lot of unknown but yet insightful knowledge behind it, and I probably would have never realized that if I didn’t read this book. I thank Mr. McCloud for the knowledge I gain from reading his book and hopefully one day I could understand comics to the extent he has.
This entire book by Scott McCloud is very interesting he gives a lot of good points and the drawings only add more to that so I get more into the comic without getting bored. McCloud backs up a lot of his claims with evidence that he thinks will back up his point, but as we took a closer look in class McCloud contradicts himself so that his definition no longer holds the same credibility as it had in the beginning. There are also some parts where he contradicts himself because there is no point in adding it in this book. His part about categories that comics fall under is kind of useless to because whether is falls closer to reality, non-reality, and nowhere near reality doesn’t matter. There are all sorts of ways a person could create a comic with it becoming popular or at least the favorite of someone else. All in all I liked this text it gave a lot of good ideas, it made me think and I could see the “high art” part of a comic.
McCloud started the book off with what he thinks the definition of a comic is. The whole point of the book is to allow people to see comics as a higher art form and not just reading material for the under educated. There were a lot of good points in the book that helped support McCloud’s claim. McCloud connects comics to all sorts of art forms such as: films, paintings, statues, etc. Comics just like fine are have survived the centuries, even when they weren’t viewed as comics then. Overall, this book really helped get the point across that there are more to comics than the vibrant characters and stories.
In chapter nine, McCloud states how “comics are seen differently in everyone’s eyes.” This is how one can personalize comics in whichever way they like. The reader’s job is to “create something out of nothing.” The artist’s job is to create something visible with space in between, allowing readers to commit closure. Also McCloud goes on and ask two main questions. Why are comics Important? And why should we try to understand comics? He makes a claim that we as humans are Isolated. The only way to break isolation is through different ways of communicating which he calls mediums or bridges. Depending on how well and artist or writer has mastered his or her medium he or she is able to break out of that isolation and get his or her ides into the readers head to an extent. This is what he means when he states that in comics the conversation follow a path from mind to hand to paper to eye to mind. Then finally at the bottom of page 198 he starts to summarize the whole book to instruct the reader in how to understand comics. First is not judging the form or medium by its content.
So to put the whole book together I see now that closure is an important factor in communication and gaining human interest in comics. McCloud just wants readers to see that reading comics can be fun and exciting. Being able to use ones imagination to complete a story is what makes the story personalized. People, who rely on “faith” and the “world of imagination”, as McCloud states, will have more fun reading comics and enjoying many other things in life. Closure happens every day even without notice. Since closure is used every day, why not give the closure in comics a shot.
Chapter nine Understanding Comics asks two questions. Why are comics Important? And why should we try to understand comics? Then he goes on to answer these questions. McCloud claims that we as humans are Isolated. The only way to break isolation is through different ways of communicating which he calls mediums or bridges. Depending on how well and artist or writer has mastered his or her medium he or she is able to break out of that isolation and get his or her ides into the readers head to an extent. The only way for a reader to get these ideas is by understanding. McCloud asserts that everyone has something to say to the world and that all inner truths have inherent worth. Why we should strive to understand comics? Because someone is trying to communicate to you. Why choose comics why not some other form of mass communication? McCloud insists that comics “is one of the very few forms of mass communication in which individual voices still have a chance to be heard.”There are still challenges to being heard but still its open to anyone and it doesn’t go through as many hands as any other medium. Comics are a way to communicate in a way that can be understood, hopefully. McCloud starting at the last panel on page 198 starts to summarize his whole book where he has tried to instruct the reader in how to understand comics. First is not judging the form or medium by its contents. Defining comics to broaden its history and its horizon. McCloud goes on an aside it seems t point out that though the poetical of comics is grate the attitudes keep it from achieving that poetical. Conics is sight based medium so McCloud refers back to his triangle of words and pictures. He reminds us of each of the chapters we’ve read though by presenting the same words of pictures from those chapters he uses our memories about each chapter. He goes through Visual Iconography Invisible would of symbol and language, realistic backgrounds and less representative people to bring the viewer to identify with charters. How words and pictures work together with closure to tell the story. McCloud continues teaching and informing the reader about comics by using comics using familiar pictures form the chapter, reminding the reader about closure while using it. With a single or rather half a sentence and many panels form that chapter McCloud sums up the subject of time in comics. He goes through the evolution of language and how pictures slowly become words and how they separated until the twentieth century. Comics continue to evolve as dose its language. Pictures through visual hold in them the pieces of invisible ideas and feeling. McCloud goes in to the different evolution of comics going a different way in Japan then in the west. Looking in to the future of comics McCloud hopes that it will not just be considered for kids and lower class and though clouded by ignorance and greed it will be seen as it is meant to be, an art form with endless possibilities. What dose comics have to offer? To list all McCloud emphasizes. "Faithfulness, control, range, versatility, the poetical of film and painting, the intimacy of the written word and the chance to be heard far and wide without fear of compromise” to paraphrase what McCloud asserts as the opportunities comics present for artists and writers. What does the creator need? As McCloud argues “... The desire to be heard, the will to learn, and the ability to see.” McCloud ends it all with hopes that we will continue to explore, a thank you and a joke from his wife.
Ch9 and analysis of book
Putting it all together: McCloud asks why are comics so important. He thinks the answer is simple. Sequential art. He says we are all isolated. And no matter what no one will know what any one else is saying or feeling. McCloud states that the only way to break the wall of not knowing is to understand. Comics are one of the few mass communications where individual voices can still be herd. He describes that we need to clear our heads of every thing we know about comics and then try and understand how comics could be helpful. Language is what drives comics. It is what gives meaning purpose. His last point is that comics are endless in their possibilities.
This book has helped me out a lot to understand comics. At first I didn’t like it and thought it was stupid, but then I figured out that comics are much more than super heroes and bad guys. It’s a way to learn it’s a way of understanding. Just like McCloud says there is a comic out there for anyone. My favorite thing about the book was that he made it easy to understand where he was coming from he gave great analogies and made his ideas very clear with simple examples That got to the point and explained what he wanted.
07 February 2010
I really enjoyed this book. Before I read this book if one were to ask me all the aspects or how much depth comics could go, I would simply reply, "A cartoon story of a superhero". I backup and agree with all of McCloud's points and opinions as he broke comics down. The content and genre of this book made it really easy to understand his points, along with the pictures and Scott's different sense of humor. I now can look at comics from a different perspective and can relate them to many forms of art. I give this book a 9 out of 10 rating.
This book was jam packed with facts about comics, but was made fun to read with the comic style that Scott used. If I were to read this book in the traditional form I doubt that it would be as interesting nor would I have understood the books meaning. I also liked the way Scott out comedy into his book. The slight humor in this book does not tarnish the seriousness Scott requires to prove his point. The chapters covered everything that the skeptics have argued about. Especially the chapter where Scott shows art from 5,000 years ago are the same as many comics. All in all I really enjoyed this book from cover to cover. I think that Scott’s skills as a comic artist are only rivaled to his skill as a writer. I am very interested in reading another book from him or seeing a comic book that he has written and drawn.
While reading through Ch. 1, Setting The Record Straight, McLoud explains how at one point in life he thought he was too old to be reading comics, but when one of his friends (who is quite intelligent) lends McLoud his comic book collection, he realizes that comics are AMAZING!!! He decides to become a Comic Book Artist and while doing that decides that people don't understand comics because they think too narrowly. He slowly begins to come up with a definition to explain comics. Trying and trying McLoud finally comes up with a defininition which he feels is most understandable. "Comics: Juxtaposed pictorial and other images in a deliberate sequence, intended to convey information and/or produce an aesthetic response in the viewer." Comics have been around for centuries but a person never really considered paintings inside cave walls comics. Comics have indeed been around for a very long time, different cultures have painted pictures on walls to tell a story or to remember historic events.
The Vocabulary of Comics, Ch. 2, McLoud explains what an icon is "Icon: any image used to represent a person, place, thing, or idea. He continues to explain that our minds understand that simile dots and a line put in the right places represent a face. The icon that we are seeing doesn't have to be one or amazing art and we still recognize what that icon is. The icons used in comics can go from being realistic to abstract and in most cases the human mind can make up nwhat the icon is.
After reading Chapters 1 and 2 I found that comics are very intersting and more complex than most people might think. They are specific details that a person can't get when reading a book or magazine. So when someone thinks that comic books are for nerdy teenage boys...THEY ARE WAY OFF. Comics can and should be read by everyone who enjoys reading and even those that don't like reading, comics give a different spin to the word reading. From little kids first learning to read, to using comics for educational purposes, to just reading for fun, comics are
definitely something to consider. I now understand how comics vary from other types of reading and visual material and I know what a comic is.
After reading this book I would say comics are an art and McCloud made some strong points by breaking up these chapters and really doing research for each topic. In the very last chapter he says something that sums it all up for me because I agree so much with this. He writes how … “no other human being can ever know what it is like to be you from the inside”, and that lack of understanding leads to all problems in the society. See as people we have this bad problem when we don’t understand things we push them out of life because it’s not the same thing or close to something we already have, no matter if its books, fashion, love choices, if it’s not what’s been going on, people don’t want to accept it. Comics are very unique and if we thought through them, we would have a better understanding and might help some people that have a hard time connecting to the normal text. It’s a winning situation to me, more people taught and just different ways.