24 February 2010
On the last section of the book, Weinstein elaborates how Jewish comic-writers have flourished in America as artists. According to Weinstein, these artists were putting down their experiences as an immigrant in America through their comics, pouring down their ideas in the form of comics, having to go through a very harsh past. Weinstein calls himself a die-hard comics fan. As a young kid he used to spend hours in his bath tub with his Star Wars figurines.
Weinstein was pretty convincing in his work. But, for the things that I love I try to keep them far away from sensitive topics such as politics, race, and religion. I'm pretty sure, only his Jewish readers agree with him on this topic. I don't agree with Weinstein at all, may be because my brain had already made the decision that he cannot be right. Also, I hope all the great comic creators, and writers didn't and don't necessarily create a character based on religion or any other basis. It's only when the character is highly popular and praised, critics and writers tend to play around with them. Writers like Weinstein, in my point of view create that border of religion between comic loves which is very wrong. Wrong in a sense that readers from different religion may not want to read comics for the sake of being true to their religion. So, thanks to Weinstein, we may just have Jewish readers left.
January 31, 2010
Chapter four was dealing with frames. Each panel shows a single moment in time when you have a sequence of panels, in between the panels (gutter) your mind fills in the intervening moments that we naturally assume or interpret what is happing. Scott uses a rope as a metaphor the shows that time figures and faces are equal. But if all the images are on the same line then the most important icon in comics is the panel which is overlooked. Scott makes a lot of good point but one major point is that not every figure or shape effects each panel strip. As well as action, drama, and additional effects such as multiple images, and streaking effects.
Chapter six “show and tell”. Tommy at school He pulls out his robot for show and tell, and he can’t explain how it works but he shows them, and Scott say’s we all started out like this using words and images but normally us as growing up translate from just shown something to being able to understand how it works and able to tell another person in just words what and how that robot works. McCloud says when were younger we read books filled with nothing but pictures because there easier to read and when you get older you move to books that have very few pictures and a lot more words. Then finally you read real books with no pictures in them. Early comics had no words and all pictures, and when words were associated with comics they stayed segregated to the normal writing we know today.
The part I understood best was when Scotts explains his self with the lines or just any motion in general not everything on the page is meant for that particular scene or panel. So he puts it through a short comic and each figure and face is matched in time. Which puts all the images on the same vertical line, but don’t change each other. So what I got out of that is each panel holds single a moment and a single moment is suppose to be read in a second, which we naturally do reading from left to right but as this happens our imagination fills in any transition spots that pictures or word leave.
On page 101, there are three different comics and each one tries to lengthen a pause. The first comic adds panels and of course it works, then the second comic makes the gutters wider which do nothing, and Scott wonders if there was another way to lengthen the pause. In the third comic he just stretches out the middle panel, and it works. I found that interesting because I never really thought about how to make a pause longer in images.
January 24, 2010
Chapter one STRS “setting the record straight”, starts off with Scott McCloud. Growing up he thought he knew what comics were, but he really had no idea the extent that comics affect us. He thought they were colorful magazines for kids. So Scott does some research and comes up with a definition for comics. At first the definition starts as sequential art, then it goes to sequential visual art. Since that’s too open, the qualifications of the definition help to develop a more specific definition, and after five tries Scott finally comes up with “juxtaposed pictorial and other images in deliberate sequence.
Chapter two, “the vocabulary of comics”, starts off with a pipe or so we think that’s what it is, but after four or five frames we find out that it’s really a printed copy of a drawing of a painting of a pipe. Then he talks about icons and what the word icon means to him. He uses the word “icon” to mean any images used to represent people, places. Every icon on page twenty six is not what it really is!!! It shows a picture of a face and it’s so detailed that it can only be one person, and then it loses detail to where it can be a few people, eventually it losing all the detail and it’s just a plain face to where it can be anyone in the world. Scott has a bunch of different shapes and with a simple addition of what looks like an eye; every shape looks like it’s a face. He said “we assign identities and emotions where none exist.
After reading chapters one and two I think the book is interesting. Scott McCloud has a really weird maybe even dry sense of humor and makes the book a little more fit to me. Because everything that I read made me think about times that I can relate to that issue.
Talk about an old school comic, that’s exactly what the Superman comic is. When Superman was a child he came to the planet in a space capsule. When he was growing up, people knew that he wasn’t a human being. He had ridiculous strength and he could fly. After he learns how to control his powers, he decides that he wants to be a protector for the people but without showing his identity. He saves the life of a lady who is going to be killed for doing something that she didn’t do. He is a hero because he stops bad guys from committing crimes, and saves peoples lives. When he’s not doing that, he lives his life like a normal person working for a newspaper company. At his work is where he gets his information on what’s going on in the city.
Batman on the other hand has no powers unless you consider his mind being a power. The skill he does have is fighting. He is a great fighter because he knows what he’s going to do. He uses your weaknesses against you and kicks your ass. He also lives his life normal. Batman just hangs around the commissioner and decides to solve the case himself when Mr. Lambert is murdered. After that he just starts helping people and solving crimes.
I would have to say that Batman is definitely better. The reason why is because if you look at it they do the same thing. They help people and protect them, but Superman has powers to do this. Does Batman? Hell no he doesn’t, he does everything Superman does without powers. So my opinion is there both good hero’s but Batman is just a bad ass!!!!!!!!
In Batman's comic, it begins with Bruce and Commisioner Gordon having a conversation. They then hear a report of a murder that occured nearby, so they both take off to the murder scene. After hearing the suspects interview, which happened to be the son of the victim, Bruce decides to leave the scene. He turns into Batman, tracks down the murderers, and beats the crap out of them and retrieves what was stolen. Batman finds among the beat up criminals a clue to another possible victim so he takes off to a new location. There, he discovers the man behind all the killings. A man by the name of Alfred Stryker. Alfred tries to shoot Batman, but because of his amazing reflexes and smarts he dodges the shot and punches the murderer to where he falls to his death.
In my opinion, BATMAN IS THE SHIT! I think that superman relies on his powers extremely too much and it is know fun to follow Superman because he has only one threat that can kill him. So what could possibly go wrong in all his stories, that he is threatened by the same thing over and over again? It gets boring to me. Batman on the other hand is a thrilling superhero! He is human so his life is at stake all the time. This makes everything suspenseful and exciting to keep up with knowing that is life is in jeopardy everytime he puts that wicked suit on.
Batman was an original person amongst the city, he was basically a nobody who hung out with the commissioner. He takes matters into his own hands when Mr. Lambert is murdered and the police think that Lambert’s brother was the person who killed him. The police believe Lambert’s brother murdered him because his hands were all over the knife, his fingers prints were taken and matched. Batman shows up out of the blue just as guys were taking papers that had something to do with the murder of the two partners. Batman stops the bad guys from getting away with murder and finds that people worked together were all involved with the murder of the two partners at the beginning of the story.
I loved both story lines and feel that I can not pick either one. I like Superman because he is out saving the world and helping people, just as batman could do to. Superman has powers in which puts him in front of the line of super heroes. They both are important I think and I like them both because they both have something to offer the world. They have powers in which could only make them unique because they present better options in different situations they are involved in. The stories of Superman and Batman are truly amazing and have an impact on the world and the readers as well because comics would not exist if either one did not exist.
23 February 2010
Batman is a man who has great fighting skills but his biggest tool since he has no powers is his mind. He deals with a murder case and is able to break it apart in no time but he’s able to fight you using your weaknesses against you and really giving you a beat down to remember him. Batman is a great hero but he’s just not better then superman.
In the comics “The Batman Begins” and “Superman”, I got to see the differences and similarities between not only the two comics but the times in which they were written. It the early 1930’s comic artist weren’t as clean as today with detail and colors. As far as the written part of comics today’s comic is very similar but different in some of the choices in words. A major difference in today’s comics is that they focus more on the main characters and give you as much action as possible because they are so expensive and not big in the numbers of pages. In both of these comics they show that the crime fighters are assisting the law enforce and still focusing on both as if they don’t want the people to just get caught in the super heroes life but show that the police is fighting these crimes as well.
Superman a man from not this planet, a man with incredible ability incredible strength, he is even able to fly. What makes superman so great? To figure it out you have to look at the first superman. There’s a woman about to be executed for murder but she didn’t do it. What should be done there’s not much that can be. Unless your superman. Superman runs to the governor’s housebreaks down the door and demands that he calls the penitentiary. The governor thinks this dude is crazy and demands him to back up or he will shoot him, but little does he know that superman cannot be hurt. “POW” he shoots him it just ricochets off. While the governor is in awe he calls the penitentiary and calls off the execution. The next day Clark Kent aka Superman asks Lois Lane on a date. She hesitates at first but accepts the offer. While on there date a cocky man comes in and try’s to take superman’s date. Trying to act innocent Clark acts like there’s nothing he can do. Baffled by this Lois Lane gets angry and leaves. Little does she know that the asshole is following. And kidnaps her. After this superman gets ready and runs and gets in the way and rescues Lois. Then takes the man and hangs him on a telephone pole. The next day Clark’s boss asks him to go do some research and find a story. Instead of going where he was told he goes to Washington DC and is trying to crack down on the government corruption. This is where the story ends. It leaves you hanging at the end. Making you want to know what happens next you’ll just have to wait till the next one comes out. Once this happened Superman became one of the most popular super heroes in the world.
Batman a man of smarts, wit and a knack for doing the right thing, Batman is different than other super heroes, as he does not posses special powers. He keeps his town safe by using his smarts. This comic starts off by having a millionaire murdered in his mansion. His son is thought to be the murder but he pleas that it is not him and that his prints are only on the knife from him trying to help his father. Then out of nowhere Batman shows up beats the murders up and takes what they stole. He returns the stolen items. That’s the end of batman until the next issue.
The reason Batman is better is because he fights crime with out super powers he’s just a real smart guy that knows how to fight. I think superman is a very fascinating character but I can’t see myself as him. I can see myself as batman because he’s real. He can get hurt. He’s human. That is the main difference between the too is that Batman is someone that any one can see there self as. The simple fact is. Is that superman is just to super.
At the beginning of the comic two men are in a room conversating. One is commisioner Gordon and the other is Bruce Wayne. After hearing news of a murder commisioner Gordon and Bruce Wayne head straight for the crime scene. After interviewing the son of the murdered father, commisioner Gordon learns of another murder threat. Bruce leaves the scene right after this and tells Gordon that he is going home. What Gordon does not know is that another murder is taking place and Bruce is heading straight to it, but not as himself, but as Batman. He beats up the criminals and takes the piece of paper that was in their possession. After reading this document Batman heads to another location to save another life. A man by the name of Alfred Stryker is behind all of the murders. Killing all his partners will make him the sole owner of their chemical corporation. Batman explains this to the last victim, Rogers, after saving him from his death. While explaining the story Stryker draws a gun to try and kill batman. Batman reacts quickly giving Stryker a good punch to the face, causing Stryker to fall to his death "He's falling right into the acid tank" (Detective Comics 6). When Rogers tries to thank Batman he turns around to find Batman gone. The next day Bruce Wayne visits Commisioner Gordon and hears about the growing rumors and news of the Batman.
I enjoy both super heroes but have to say that batman is better. Yes superman has super human strength and can leap a mile but the special thing I like about the batman is he could be anybody. I am a fan of all the characters in Batman and enjoy the villians as well. But one thing I find very cool is both Batman and Superman have these crazy secret identities. Everyday they collaborate with the news or police and still manage to hide their secrets from the ones who are best at figuring out that kind of stuff. Two kick ass superheroes, everyday right in front of your face.
Overall I thought the essay was good. I thought the author explained very well on what he thought about McCloud. He explained what McClouds mistakes were and what good he did for comics. Though this was only one person explaining on what he thought McClouds work it still opened up my mind and looked at McClouds in a different way.
This essay was too long. I don’t think I will ever have a problem with reading McCloud’s work ever again. The footnotes in Horrock’s essay really helped. I do believe that Horrock better explained what McCloud was trying to convince. I felt that Horrock summarized everything in McCloud’s book. I think he could have left out the pictures and just referred to the page. It made his work seem too long.
Well, yes i know, not much of a summary, but i don't really know how to write a summary on something I have already summarized. I found that everything that was discussed in Horrocks writing was the same as McCloud's comic book. I can't say i found it interesting because in several different parts of the article i felt the Horrocks was just repeating himself over and over. I understand that the point of the article was just to clear things up even more but I realty didn't see a need in it. Using different panels for Understanding Comics only made me feel as though Horrock was writing for a person that didn't understand a single thing McCloud wrote. I did however find the controversies interesting. McCloud didn't really seem it back up his theory and it was made obvious by R.C. Harvey. It was as though he just let it fall without a really hard try for backing. It was in no way necessary for Horrocks to try and explain anything once explained by McCloud. Yes, i did find myself interested in a few things he said, it was very few.
Detective Comics was the first comic book of the Batman. With no detailed story, the comics starts with Lambert and Bruce Wayne talking to each other when a sudden killing of a businessman grabs their attention. The son gets blamed for killing his dad just because the police finds his fingerprints on the knife. Meanwhile, another business man gets killed. So the series of murders makes Batman to investigate it and on the process of the third businessman being killed, he stops the murderer and gets the evidence. He later discloses that the person behind all the killings was the businessmen partner who did all that for sole ownership.
I don't know which one is better, personally Wolverine is. Fine, just for the sake of this blog I think its batman.Like Ben said, Batman is an ordinary human being. Superman has super natural powers, if it wasn't for that he would be some gym teacher. Also, batman is way cooler with his cars, bikes, and his secret hideout. I wish I was batman. may be I am . Who knows?
The drive and desire is there in McCloud's writing and he is truly showing is how to understand comics. I find it very interesting to see that someone has such strong feelings for comics and trying to persuade others to try and grasp his feelings. For one person to pun in so much effort it says a lot about how and why he is doing it. I would have never considered comic pictures as real art, but McCloud sure changed that for me. I can honestly say that he may have rambled on too long in some chapter but i was never at the point that i wasn't interested. He really made a lot of sense when he said, "The first step in any such effort is to clear our minds of all preconceived notions about comics. Only by starting from scratch can we discover the full range of possibilities comics offer". I think that was one thing that should have been said from the beginning. Had a read those lines at the start i probably would have gotten a better feel for the entire comic book.
22 February 2010
Inventing Comics; Scott McCloud’s Definition of Comics by Dylan Horrocks. Horrocks initiates that Scott McCloud’s Understanding Comics is an influential element of discussion about comics being art. It is possibly the most significant book of comics’ theory. Horrocks claims that in his book McCloud is influential and effectual, “he is persuasive and inspiring.” All theory is to some degree argumentation, theory deals with convincing others to be under a particular impression. Understanding Comics has established a way of talking about comics that declares and encourages the want for essential honor and appears to present a getaway from the aesthetic restrictions and isolations. McCloud uses his definition to demonstrate the limitations of the comic world. He aspires to destroy the received ideas that prevent individuals from acknowledging the distinctive art of comics. People think all comics are poorly drawn, poor quality, tacky and unintelligent, people link comics with their history and not with their possibilities. McCloud detaches our judgments of comics by focusing our observation their configuration; form is what McCloud defines. McCloud uses Will Eisner’s “sequential art” because it focuses on the things he appreciates about comics. Sequential art allows pictures to go beyond the customary limitations of a single image, transforming into a narrative. Also the combination of words and pictures, speech balloons, panels, styles and genres all assist McCloud in finding his proper definition. Comics have become a smaller extent of mass medium but they appear to become more like a province, erasing the drifting ways from the edge of the arts. McCloud’s definition is a venture to free comics from is restrictions and isolations that former definitions imprisoned them with. McCloud seems to indicate that the release of the isolations and restrictions will leave an individual entirely free with infinite exploration. He merely wants to broaden our boundaries. McCloud ventures into history to reclaim medieval broadsheets, narrative sequences, picture stories, wordless novels, picture books and more. McCloud’s definition of comics like any definition is itself a conceptual structure. In the center of McCloud’s definition is the concept that a comic is a sequence of images. Horrocks gives examples of conceptual or metaphorical structure “comics are a kind of writing that uses words and pictures, comics are a set of narrative conventions or comics are texts etc.” A metaphorical system such as McCloud’s definition can influence the way we read comics. Horrocks ends his composition by talking about “Show and Tell” chapter six, the relationship between words and pictures. Horrocks states, “the relationship between words and pictures has always been more complex then Scott suggests.”
Horrocks work was extremely long. I found it more difficult to understand then McCloud’s book, but Horrocks examined and analyzed every factor of McCloud’s definition. Horrocks pointed out to me that McCloud has been persuading his readers that comics are art, I never thought of it that way; I always thought he was just educating his audience. Now I realize that McCloud not only educates but he inspires, persuades and argues that comics are indeed art; and I agree comics are a form of art.
I found this reading interesting and it took me awhile to finish the whole thing but easily kept up with what Horrocks was trying to say because he had included pictures and footnotes. I found it difficult to understand but like any other reading I did my best to understand its purpose. I found it interesting that he called this book the greatest when Horrocks himself didn’t seem to notice that McCloud does contradict himself he however praises it and makes it seem like it is more important to comic lovers. The reading was interesting but took awhile to read, I kept reading it over and over again hoping I got its main points.
In my opinion Dylan Horock pin pointed and discussed every key element of Scott McClouds definiton of comics to an exact point. It was very interesting and well written in a way that i saw things in McClouds book with the help of Horock that i had not seen before. He broadened up my mind to explore new life in McClouds novel. I enjoyed the reading though it was rather long and at the same time very difficult to understand. I now have more insight to the definiton of comics by McCloud from others point of views.
Horrocks also points out that comics are more than just pictures and bad art. Each piece has hidden power or invisible art to it, Horrocks points out. Horrocks mentions that the most important aspect that Scott is trying to get across to his reader is the aspect of closure. I agree that closure is very important in anything in life. Imagine anything without closure it would just feel incomplete. 216
Many people who read commics enjoy the depictions from pannel to pannel. Others whom prefer a novel say that novels are more efficient and more recognizable as a reading source of true literature. Horrocks mentions that Scott argues that comics are just as important if not even more. There is so much culture within a comic just as in books. Just like a novel comics also contain deep stories and meaningful characters. It is not just about the guys in tights fighting the bad guy who is trying to destroy or take over the world.
Horrocks brings up that Scott is trying to broaden the world of comics and not just keep it confined by those outside the comic community. Scott has given speaches on the subject at conventions that seem to dwindle each year. Scott still believes that comics age is far from over as we look to the future.